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chris21 14 ( +1 | -1 )
Barcza opening? I've seen a lot of great players (such as grandpatzter) use this opening, but I can't seem to master it. Does anyone have any tips on how to get the most out of it?
bafverfeldt1981 50 ( +1 | -1 )
chris21 The Barcza opening is very passive for white (not said that it lacks power) in the beginning however it has very good transposal possibilitys.

After opening moves Nf3 ... g3 white can simply relax and later choose what system to adapt.

White's first moves are often Nf3 g3 Bg2 0-0.

Often common played against Nf3 is, if not Nf6, d5 and white will attack the center later with c4.

If I'd to play against it I'd go for the symmetrical variation of the english i.e Nf3 Nf6 g3 g6 Bg2 Bg7 0-0 0-0 c4 c5...

If you wish to know further please let me know.
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chris21 34 ( +1 | -1 )
Thanks for the info:)

The problem I have with the barcza is that by the time I've set it up black seems to have developed a very strong claim in the centre of the board. In particular his centre pawns attacking my knight on f3. I do like the way that a discovered attack by the bishop on b2 is allowed by moving the knight on f3, but I often find it's too late to employ it:(
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matadordelrey 22 ( +1 | -1 )
Chris21.... Does Barcza opening involve the fianchettoing the KB at g2? I think it's not because if that is so, then its the king's indian attack.

Perhaps I'm at a loss, but if memory serves me right, the thematic Barcza opening involves the placing of the KB at e2. Am I right?
bafverfeldt1981 73 ( +1 | -1 )
matador & chris21 Matador: Today I happened to come over the Oxford chess encyclopedia and that supported my statement about Barcza being Nf3 followed by g3. If that's the case then I doubt that Be2 would be played;).

It's more a system than an opening though.

Chris21: You could use the same system as the KID i-e play d3 and then opt for c4, e4 to attack the center.

F.e:
1. Nf3 d5
2. g3 c5
3. Bg2 Nc6
4. 0-0 e5
5. d3 Nf6
6. c4 ...

Like most fianchetto systems it can be exploited servere if not played right and it takes time to master king side fianchetto techniques. Maybe you could send a message to indianking since he has much experience and probably would know more about Barcza than I.

//oscar
bullmoose 78 ( +1 | -1 )
I have... the Everyman Chess book "Nimzo-Larsen Attack" by Jacobs & Tait. Which features 1. b3 or what it calls the reversed Nimzo - 1. Nf3 ... and then 2. b3 ...
It's not a 'how to win with the...' book, it simply focusses on these two related openings and features won, lost & drawn games.

It states that this opening does not give white an advantage but simply levels the playing field against opponents who potentially have better opening theory - giving flexibility (as bafverfeldt says) as well as being slightly unusual "opponents are thrown onto their own resources at an early stage" i.e. it's conducive to good chess rather than good memory.

The book's a little advanced for me right now but it features 69 games and looks worthwhile if you're interested in this opening.

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bafverfeldt1981 3 ( +1 | -1 )
bullmoose We were talking about 2.g3 ;)
bullmoose 10 ( +1 | -1 )
Doh! Oh well - b3, g3 - what's a Queen? It's near enough the same just on the other side isn't it?

Sorry....

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bafverfeldt1981 27 ( +1 | -1 )
;) Since I feel the evil presence of programs near I read a couple of 'how to defeat chessprograms' manuals and the Barcza Opening was one of the preferred openings by GM's against programs. That's really interesting I think.

Other preferred systems were Colle and Stonewall.

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ravendon 30 ( +1 | -1 )
Barcza The Barcza is a variation of the classical King's Indian Attack (K.I.A.), where you play 1.Nf3. It is listed usually as K.I.A (Barcza system). ECO code is A07. The classical KIA is usually 1.e4. Either beginning move will transpose into the KIA structure, unless of course, your opponent plays the Scandinavian against your 1.e4.